tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post2177889101952494518..comments2023-10-06T10:17:06.737-04:00Comments on Thou and Thou Only: AppallingHarmonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15105846442509828835noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-13310343016844715952008-04-02T09:52:00.000-04:002008-04-02T09:52:00.000-04:00Sara: she's just precious, isn't she? But she's n...Sara: she's just precious, isn't she? But she's not <I>quite</I> as cute when she's waking us up in the middle of the night! lol<BR/><BR/>I just plain don't like the fact that he puts a baby on the same page as an STD. It's a crass way of stating it. Someone with Mr. Obama's great speaking abilities should have found a better way to put it, even if that is how he feels.<BR/><BR/>Something else that bothers me is the complete lack of responsibility demonstrated. He says he's teaching his daughters morals. From the context, that seems to mean that he's trying to teach them to not mess around with boys while still a teenager. And yet, if one of his daughters disobeys him, he doesn't want her to face the consequences of that disobedience?<BR/><BR/>What happens if she's caught stealing? Will he try to keep her from going to jail so she won't have to face the consequences of that decision? Where does that sort of logic end?<BR/><BR/>On the subject of comprehensive sex education, I had it in fifth, seventh, and ninth grades. The education didn't stop several young ladies of my acquaintance from having babies while still teenagers. I do not know how many girls I knew in high school were pregnant but did not carry to term, or how many have STD's (although the recent <A HREF="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88140117" REL="nofollow">evidence </A> suggests that a LOT of them probably do).<BR/><BR/>Don't get me wrong. I think that education is important. But obviously the current programs aren't achieving the results they ought to.Harmonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15105846442509828835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-78443392958337368002008-04-01T17:59:00.000-04:002008-04-01T17:59:00.000-04:00Awww, did you guys miss me? :) I've been tempted t...Awww, did you guys miss me? :) I've been tempted to post on some of your more recent Luna posts (I ADORE that little dog) but have been trying to stay offline a bit more...<BR/><BR/>I realize fully what you were taking issue with, but couldn't you have found a different Obama quote? By using that quote, the issue seemed to be with evidence-based sex ed, not the "baby as burden" issue. I've thought of 101 different examples where one man's treasure is another's burden, but I know your recent losses are a sore subject, and didn't want to demean that with my analogies. <BR/><BR/>Anyway....babies aren't "punishment". Babies are babies...and babies are the common result of unprotected sex. It wasn't great wording, I'll admit. But I really don't think Obama thinks of children as "punishment". And for a 16 year old, getting pregnant probably seems like "punishment" for making the mistake of having unprotected sex. I think the pro/anti-choice and abstinence only/anti-abstinence only crowd need to back away from the whole "consequences/punishment" mentality surrounding- which both sides are guilty of.<BR/><BR/>See, that wasn't so bad, was it?Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07313112289422572842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-65183842126953081022008-04-01T16:47:00.000-04:002008-04-01T16:47:00.000-04:00It's really not surprising from Obama. Keep in mi...It's really not surprising from Obama. Keep in mind his's <A HREF="http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=/Commentary/archive/200801/COM20080109b.html" REL="nofollow">past voting record</A> on the subject. <BR/><BR/>Quote:<BR/><BR/><I>He is so pro-abortion that he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede -- as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor -- that these babies, fully outside their mothers' wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact "persons."</I>Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14077883273809275431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-13833730350640236282008-04-01T15:13:00.000-04:002008-04-01T15:13:00.000-04:00Ah Sara, it has been a while. I had a thought tha...Ah Sara, it has been a while. I had a thought that something like this might draw you into the comments ;)<BR/><BR/>My issue wasn't so much with his comments about comprehensive sex ed rather than calling the baby a punishment. I know that I will probably get a comment from you arguing about how it <I>would</I> be a punishment, but the fact is that I (and the majority of this blog's readers) strongly dislike how he put that.JunkMalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02619673168896233941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-89094816009288932382008-04-01T14:28:00.000-04:002008-04-01T14:28:00.000-04:00How sad that someone would consider the gift of li...How sad that someone would consider the gift of life a punishment.Birdiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435192830239831841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-57698385181718823252008-04-01T12:49:00.000-04:002008-04-01T12:49:00.000-04:00Completely rational comment, as far as I can see. ...Completely rational comment, as far as I can see. He's supporting sex education. Because you lost a wanted pregnancy, every sexually active 16 year old in the nation should be denied information that will allow them to prevent an unwanted pregnancy? Is that what you're arguing? What does Obama's statement of support of comprehensive sex education have to do with your miscarriage? How very "Handmaid's Tale" of you....Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07313112289422572842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-8358434011848162522008-04-01T12:33:00.000-04:002008-04-01T12:33:00.000-04:00I'm shocked. Is this what he believes when he isn...I'm shocked. Is this what he believes when he isn't fed a prepared comment?Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00030815071294070061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-48436443090024697212008-04-01T12:28:00.000-04:002008-04-01T12:28:00.000-04:00I just read that quote somewhere else today, a pro...I just read that quote somewhere else today, a pro-abortion site, btw, and the person who shared it didn't really admire his way of putting things, either. It really is ugly.<BR/><BR/>And I am so sorry. We lost one at 16 weeks, and I had a couple other very, very, very early miscarriages. It hurts.Headmistress, zookeeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14071449326819510530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-18501100735875101952008-04-01T10:42:00.000-04:002008-04-01T10:42:00.000-04:00Grrrr....Sad to say a lot of married Christians ha...Grrrr....<BR/><BR/>Sad to say a lot of married Christians have the same attitude about not wanting to be "punished" with any more babies.<BR/><BR/>Sigh.Smockity Frockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922037293905396736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37491865.post-57452067995514957282008-04-01T08:43:00.000-04:002008-04-01T08:43:00.000-04:00I listen to political talk radio a lot, so I I hea...I listen to political talk radio a lot, so I I hear a good number of Obama quotes, but I hadn't heard this one. He's wrong on so many levels, and it does make you angry when you really stop and think about it. I do the same thing when I stop and think about it. The bad thing is that what he's saying is normal PC talk, but since we stop to analyze what he says since he's running for president, it makes you think at it more deeply. Sometimes it's easy to get so engrossed with "life" that you "forget" about thinks like abortion or the illegal immigrants or any of a number of things which the government allows on a normal basis, andyou only remember that the thing is going on when you hear "big" politicians like Obama talking. We sure need some serious change in America, no question.<BR/><BR/>JonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com