Appalling
(this is NOT an April Fool's joke)
Courtesy of Barack Hussein Obama:
"When it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include -- which should include abstinence education and teaching the children -- teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual. But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16. You know, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."
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Ridiculous.
Perhaps some of you have heard this, but it's for the benefit of any readers who might not have.
Usually, when socialist presidential candidates talk about their crazy policies or otherwise make some strange comments, I inwardly scoff and don't think much of it. But this comment angered me like none other so far, because it hits a sensitive area for me and my wife. If things had gone the way we wanted, our first baby was supposed to be about one and a half months old by now.
I don't understand how any anti-abortion voters could ever vote for this guy. Even before he said this, it's public knowledge that he does not support ANY restrictions on ANY kind of abortion. And then he goes and puts his foot in his mouth like this. I can see how people are drawn by his charisma, but this just trumps his charisma and flushes it down the toilet, never again to be a factor to me. I get the feeling that every time I see him speak from this point forward, this little gem of a quote will be in the back of my mind. Or the front of it.
I make no apologies that this is an emotionally charged post. I don't care to hear any apologetics on how his comment really does make sense if you really want it to. This just angers me.
Anyone else want to express their dismay?
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politics and junk and stuff
I listen to political talk radio a lot, so I I hear a good number of Obama quotes, but I hadn't heard this one. He's wrong on so many levels, and it does make you angry when you really stop and think about it. I do the same thing when I stop and think about it. The bad thing is that what he's saying is normal PC talk, but since we stop to analyze what he says since he's running for president, it makes you think at it more deeply. Sometimes it's easy to get so engrossed with "life" that you "forget" about thinks like abortion or the illegal immigrants or any of a number of things which the government allows on a normal basis, andyou only remember that the thing is going on when you hear "big" politicians like Obama talking. We sure need some serious change in America, no question.
Jon
Grrrr....
Sad to say a lot of married Christians have the same attitude about not wanting to be "punished" with any more babies.
Sigh.
I just read that quote somewhere else today, a pro-abortion site, btw, and the person who shared it didn't really admire his way of putting things, either. It really is ugly.
And I am so sorry. We lost one at 16 weeks, and I had a couple other very, very, very early miscarriages. It hurts.
I'm shocked. Is this what he believes when he isn't fed a prepared comment?
Completely rational comment, as far as I can see. He's supporting sex education. Because you lost a wanted pregnancy, every sexually active 16 year old in the nation should be denied information that will allow them to prevent an unwanted pregnancy? Is that what you're arguing? What does Obama's statement of support of comprehensive sex education have to do with your miscarriage? How very "Handmaid's Tale" of you....
How sad that someone would consider the gift of life a punishment.
Ah Sara, it has been a while. I had a thought that something like this might draw you into the comments ;)
My issue wasn't so much with his comments about comprehensive sex ed rather than calling the baby a punishment. I know that I will probably get a comment from you arguing about how it would be a punishment, but the fact is that I (and the majority of this blog's readers) strongly dislike how he put that.
It's really not surprising from Obama. Keep in mind his's past voting record on the subject.
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He is so pro-abortion that he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede -- as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor -- that these babies, fully outside their mothers' wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact "persons."
Awww, did you guys miss me? :) I've been tempted to post on some of your more recent Luna posts (I ADORE that little dog) but have been trying to stay offline a bit more...
I realize fully what you were taking issue with, but couldn't you have found a different Obama quote? By using that quote, the issue seemed to be with evidence-based sex ed, not the "baby as burden" issue. I've thought of 101 different examples where one man's treasure is another's burden, but I know your recent losses are a sore subject, and didn't want to demean that with my analogies.
Anyway....babies aren't "punishment". Babies are babies...and babies are the common result of unprotected sex. It wasn't great wording, I'll admit. But I really don't think Obama thinks of children as "punishment". And for a 16 year old, getting pregnant probably seems like "punishment" for making the mistake of having unprotected sex. I think the pro/anti-choice and abstinence only/anti-abstinence only crowd need to back away from the whole "consequences/punishment" mentality surrounding- which both sides are guilty of.
See, that wasn't so bad, was it?
Sara: she's just precious, isn't she? But she's not quite as cute when she's waking us up in the middle of the night! lol
I just plain don't like the fact that he puts a baby on the same page as an STD. It's a crass way of stating it. Someone with Mr. Obama's great speaking abilities should have found a better way to put it, even if that is how he feels.
Something else that bothers me is the complete lack of responsibility demonstrated. He says he's teaching his daughters morals. From the context, that seems to mean that he's trying to teach them to not mess around with boys while still a teenager. And yet, if one of his daughters disobeys him, he doesn't want her to face the consequences of that disobedience?
What happens if she's caught stealing? Will he try to keep her from going to jail so she won't have to face the consequences of that decision? Where does that sort of logic end?
On the subject of comprehensive sex education, I had it in fifth, seventh, and ninth grades. The education didn't stop several young ladies of my acquaintance from having babies while still teenagers. I do not know how many girls I knew in high school were pregnant but did not carry to term, or how many have STD's (although the recent evidence suggests that a LOT of them probably do).
Don't get me wrong. I think that education is important. But obviously the current programs aren't achieving the results they ought to.